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  Is everyone required to be enrolled in the theocratic ministry school?

  by hoser in

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  can a publisher "drop out" and still be in good standing?.

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  In just a few years I will be celebrating 50 years since I was in the WT Borganism, but as I recall, no one was *required* to join the TMS, but it was considered a sign of "spiritual progress".

  Like the Chinese Finger Trap, once in it is difficult to withdraw. The best strategy is to begin missing a bunch of assigned talks, which means that someone else will have to prepare a talk with only minutes notice. After a few of these stunts they will probably be happy to let you go.

  As I recall, that was part of how I went from Pioneer/MS to zero in a brief time. I didn't want drama, I just wanted OUT.
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  I'm Taking A "Newly Interested One" To Her First Meeting

  by Zandor in

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  i've been out of the organization for quite a number of years, and still feel that uneasy feeling that was washed into every cell of my being by wt indoctrination since birth.

  never seems to go away completely, does it?.

  i use to feel the need to talk about my experience in the organization to others, to worldlies, and they never quite seem to understand.

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  What the hell is a "JewBu"?
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  Letting go of Highly Qualified Men

  by James Jackson in

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  i have been posting for a few months now and have read the life stories of tech49, confusedandalone, winston smith and other brothers who have held prominent positions in the organization who were dismissed not for any gross sins, but mainly for not keeping their child toeing the line.

  they have been "cast aside", nit picked to death, and made to feel unworthy for their years of dedicated service.

  even in my case, having my best friends treat me like the plague to jockey for position of recogntion.. is this what the organization is resorting to now?

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  Brother Jackson, it seems to me that you have yet to experience ILLUMINATION; you seem to still be functioning as though you believe The Watchtower Bible & Tract Society is Pure Worship™.

  I have left garlic bread at the altar of The Flying Spaghetti Monster on your behalf. May you soon be embraced by His Noodley Appendages.

  Let this strike your consciousness like Lightning from Thor's Hammer: The WTB&TS is a man-made CULT not much different from all the other religions and CULTS that the WTB&TS condemns as "False religion"! ALL religions are FALSE!

  Wake Up, man!

  LET GO of your faith-based speculations, expectations, hopes and dreams!

  "Thus shall ye think of this fleeting world: A star at dawn, a bubble in a stream; A flash of lightning in a summer cloud; A flickering lamp, a phantom, and a dream."
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  burning satanic items

  by fakesmile in

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  true story.

  so was cleaning out an old storage unit on family property.

  i happened upon an old audio casette case full of audio watchtowers.

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  LOL, Snare&Racket! Good one!
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  burning satanic items

  by fakesmile in

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  true story.

  so was cleaning out an old storage unit on family property.

  i happened upon an old audio casette case full of audio watchtowers.

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  You were lucky, the tapes contained Old Light, so Jehovah let you off with a toe stubbing.

  Try a stunt like that with the new gray NNWT though, and all bets are off. Jehovah might send anti-matter after you.
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  whats the betting SfPW will be a full blown apostate within 6 months ?

  by bigmac in

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  is it me--- or is stand for pure worship slowly wavering in his posts ?.

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  I think Laika is correct.

  I make an effort to ignore SfPW's posts as often as possible.

  Don't feed the trolls and don't take their bait.

  Imagine if SfPW started a thread and it was completely ignored?

  I know, call me a dreamer...
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  YOU ARE DOING A GOOD JOB!

  by abiather in

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  i am still a jw.

  i cant give any more details than this because of my family members who are devout jws.

  i cherish a larger picture in my heart without anybody knowing ittrue worship means love and compassion, (luke 10:25-37) not belonging to any organization or having a set of belief system!

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  Abiather (you presumptuous JW twit),

  GOOD FOR YOU! IT IS GREAT THAT YOU ARE HERE!

  Here's how YOU can improve your standing in the XJW community: remember that NONE of us are here to fulfill Your needs or desires or live up to your "thoughtfully worked out" standards.

  We HAVE NOT been prayerfully awaiting YOUR arrival here. Each INDIVIDUAL here has their own story and their own reason for being here.

  You may be AMAZED to learn that NONE of these individuals was waiting for YOU to show up and tell them how they can IMPROVE themselves.

  You can be more ELEGANT if you keep this thought in mind: Everyday, the Universe provides THOUSANDS of opportunities for you to SHUT UP. When you are inclined to offer a left-handed compliment with advice about how the reader can further improve themselves, take advantage of THAT opportunity to SHUT UP.

  Other than that, it will be perfectly wonderful having you here (at last!) to guide us out of gloomy darkness and into YOUR dazzling light.
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  Lady Lee is Awesome

  by Scott77 in

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  hi lady,.

  i have great admiration and respect for your wisdom, courage, insight, fighting spirit and advocacy on behalf of abused ex-jws.

  to me, you are like a lady with 'the mind of steel' if you are reading this thread, this is a tribute to your oustanding work on behalf of the disfranchised.

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  ...but... SHE'S NOT HERE!

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=LpS7mpskf18
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  "Apostates" Who Return To Their Own Vomit

  by minimus in

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  once you realize ttatt, how can anyone with half a brain, go back??.

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  Minimus, you'll see! You'll see! In just a couple short weeks, when Hank kicks the shit out of you & me, SBF will be there, counting his money and laughing. *

  Those unfamiliar with the "HANK" scenario are invited to view the FREE Bible-based™ short film, "Kissing Hank's Ass."

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=fDp7pkEcJVQ
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  So Frightened.. Extremely Afraid

  by Caupon in

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  as some of you may know, i'm a pretty troubled lad who was on the verge of getting baptised but stopped when i learned the shocking truth about the organization.

  following that my own mother let me have it in anger to my decision.

  since then, my life has been true hell.. .

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  The elders are only guys, nothing more. Don't cloak them with the attributes of Israelite Priests; the fact is that the Israelite Priests were only guys too, with the benefit of hundreds of years of image-polishing. So don't be stunned by ANYTHING your "elders" do, if they screw up, they will be the first to tell you that they are "just IMPERFECT men" prone to err -- and they forgive EACH OTHER, which is a nice gig.

  Unlike most who post here, I will give you your secret key to freedom. Keep this a secret until the day you use it and it will work for you. The secret exit key is that the day you turn 18 you join the US military (I am assuming you live in the US). You seem smart... if you REALLY are smart you will apply yourself in school and pursue improving your physical fitness: Don't let the old "bodily training is beneficial for a little..." mantra disuade you. Be low-key about it, but strive to improve yourself in ALL ways.

  When you join the military, they will offer you tests to help them decide where to put you. You want to score as highly on these tests as you possibly can so that you are not seen as a mere grunt. Remember this advice, it is your key to personal salvation. WHY? Because the Watchtower thinks you have NO options. If you are in your parents' home you are under their rules. So you LEAVE their house and become your own man.

  There are times I wish I had this advice 50 years ago, but I didn't.